LGR – Apple IIGS – Vintage Computer System Review

August 24, 2012 by 50 Comments



The Apple II was one of the first major successes in personal computing, and as a result Apple released several variants, culminating in the IIGS in 1986. Although soon phased out in favor of the Macintosh, the IIGS was a worthwhile machine for years. But is it still worth owning to a current collector of vintage computers?

This is an overview of the history, hardware, and software of the IIGS from the perspective of a classic computer collector. How do the pros and cons stack up, and is it worth getting a IIGS considering the other, more popular 16-bit 80’s computers?

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50 Replies to “LGR – Apple IIGS – Vintage Computer System Review”

  1. iKatOverLord says:

    πŸ‘‹πŸ‘‹πŸ‘‹

  2. this was my dad's first computer he owned and i loved it as a child. After that was the Mac performa and then imac as well as gateway 2000 pc with a dvd rom drive then dell for me and dad and hp laptop as well as hp desktop for windows.

  3. BeLeFu says:

    you looked hilarious back then

  4. Wow "Clint", you have some hardcore dedicated fans/followers. They seem to care more about your beard than the actual content focus of the review/clip/upload. But I digress, watching this <14 minute vid personally causes me to long for my IIGS of long ago. I used that box every way I could for about 5 years or so ('89-'95). Once I acquired a PowerMac 8100/100AV. My Father got seriously injured, & got lawsuit money. Yay? well, so I lost a Dad (catch & bicycles became matinees & arcades. It worked, plus he was fun loopy on pain meds!) but gained a seriously fantastic RISC based behemoth. The IIGS was my Mom's idea, & I hated her idea for about a year or two. But, once I started coding my own BASIC software/games (gained experience from PreComputer 1000, & continued by modifying code found in magazines, library books, & eventually… the "Internet". Oooooo. Ahhhhhhh.), & acquiring shareware at the local "Apple" usergroup meetings, I quickly realized the utility of such a device. I took my Amazing Spider-Man collection (issues 350-400) & made an AppleWorksGS database out of them. I printed ever type of greeting card, flyer, banner, & even my own Garfield the cat stories (I took Odie & Nermal violence to the next level) utilizing apps like PrintShop, & several "Paint" type programs. My understanding grew (Prodos board v3 IS better than v1! I need a modem! Where IS Carmen San Diego right now? OH! I know!) & my digital dependence became greater, along with my need to ignore other user's opinions, & form my own based on actual experience. Magazines fueled my curiosity for a time, but when my copy of ProTerm finally arrived (like, a day after I ordered it) I was online with VT100, Kermit&Z-Modem, BBSes, local book library based Internet access through Gopher, Lynx, Anarchie, & Pine (you know what that means. Information access like nobody had back then). Dang. I miss that machine. Like Joey in Hackers missed "Lucy" when the Feds took "her". My Mom gave away the IIGS to the next door neighbors, as they were packing up & moving away. "Here's another box, take it away forever! It'll be educational for the kids!" that was the Apple allure/draw, "edutainment". For every actual GAME there were multiple edu-titles ala Number Munchers, Carmen San Diego, Mission to Mars, Oregon Trail, etc.The fact the IIGS handled 8bit Apple ][ software, just meant it's actual library was large, & only a true IIGS/Mac user knew the difference. I suppose I shouldn't have stored the IIGS, but my desk was only large enough for one system & a printer! (my faithful ImageWriter II). Truly, I never thought I'd do better than a PowerMac 6100, & when my old Man dropped 3grand in my lap one day, I about shat myselt. & yes, ignored the IIGS from that point on, but I dunno what lesson I was supposed to learn from losing my 1st "real" 'puter/box, cuz I still have WAY too much silicon in my closet (even my IIGS expansion boards that she didn't get her hands on). I say you are lucky person Clint to have such a classic, robust system, & I thank you for the demo/memory jog.

  5. Dan K says:

    I’ll take 100 $50 Apple IIgs’ please

  6. 10p6 says:

    Nice review, but I cant believe it does not have a built in floppy drive. Hmmm

  7. Respect the beard. 1.36M subscribers, way to go Clint.

  8. The IIgs was the first computer I have ever used, so for nostalgic reasons is why I will hunt for one. (Man alive, I went on a YT rabbit hole on old tech)

  9. BJ Jongejan says:

    Wow that was quite the beard you had going back then haha

  10. Guy Fawkes says:

    Classic LGR is awesome, and a little bit more furry…

  11. John Becker says:

    9:45 OK, my dirty mind got the wrong idea here… just sayin'

  12. ElMariachi says:

    Same league as the Amiga is a bit stretched πŸ˜‰

  13. β€œ$50-$200” cries in 2020

  14. Mister Wolfe says:

    I miss my Apple IIGS.

  15. Ethan Ingram says:

    This Amish Clint video just randomly popped up in my recommendations…

  16. Glenn Young says:

    I love my //gs.. now I need to find an accelerator card for mine and a cf card adapter instead of the ancient hard disk mine has…

  17. Laughing Man says:

    Ra ra Rasputin! Lover of the Russian Queen!

  18. JoelJoel says:

    Lol, you look rough in this video, bro. Glad you look so good and happy in all your new shit. Keep doin what u do!

  19. Chris Keeton says:

    This is one computer I desperately want to collect again. I bought one when I lived in the USA, and it's still there somewhere I hope, but I'd like to find one in the UK.

  20. Jim Hatley says:

    BRING BACK BEARDED CLINT!

  21. bjbell52 says:

    I liked the Atari 800 over the Apple II. It cost half as much and was way more powerful.

  22. Mr. MadMan says:

    Damn LGR looked way different

  23. An Anna says:

    They should of lost the "shelf" up front and put it in a case like the IIci…
    The IIgs was way better than the Macs of the time, but it was a dead end and we all knew it. The Mac was the new hotness… just looking at the Big Thick Developer GUI guidelines told you that. The Mac software and Quickdraw and Multifinder was a whole paradigm shift, whereas the IIgs was just trying to fake it a bitl onger. It was fun to play Hellcats over the Pacific and Tetris on the IIgs in that awesome color and sound, but really what you wanted was that legit Mac Desktop. Fortunately, I had that in a Mac SE… but got to play with a IIgs at work at Software Etc. I ended up pirating the whole dang store of every big of Mac software, which was… well… a lot lol. One of thep erks of the job of being able to open and close the store and reshrink everything you took home (and you were allowed to take one title home every now and then… I was taking them home by the armful lol.

  24. fkthewhat says:

    What 7 years does to ones voice! I can notice a difference, and hey, you sound better now than you did then!

  25. Your channel had killed the 2nd hand market and thrift stores for items like this. Swine. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

  26. nullsmack says:

    What the what. I was not expecting Wolfenstein 3D.

  27. The Apple II GS was my very first computer.

  28. Bondarev says:

    LGR, and the R stands for Rasputin.

    Clint, We need the beard back. You went from Magical IBM Wizard to Good christian boy.

  29. That beard! Clint being awsome in all of his awesomeness!

  30. Vamptonius says:

    10th June 1977, eh? Nearly two months before my release date.

  31. Vamptonius says:

    Who doesn't fondle cheese?

  32. Vamptonius says:

    Wolf3d looks like it runs a bit crunchy. But I like the graphics.

  33. III says:

    Didn't realize Clint was once a MetalJesus apostle.

  34. Pierre Lucas says:

    i didn't know GS model but other models with this design, they were very nice as my screen. Sony with trinitron and Philips with their pitch 0.28, 0, 26, 0, 25 and 0.21, 0.17 to 0.15 began to trust market for professionals and Apple should have an modern solution too. They were more flat and back of screen was modern. The floppy disk and external HDD were very nice too. All was with same design style. It was as Apricot, the last Sinclair and Atari 520 ST and some professionnal IBM Solutions . There was a research of same stylish design. The cables were with good soft rubber for an quality of using.

  35. flarn2006 says:

    I'm pretty sure this is the oldest computer I've ever used. My elementary school had them alongside more modern (for the time) Macs in the late 90's/early 00's. I was in 3rd grade when I discovered how to access BASIC on it; I wasn't sure what I was supposed to type but I did know some BASIC and that was one of the first things I tried.

  36. Nice but the IIc was the ultimate.

  37. Zeluth says:

    Apple 2 forever

  38. Higgins21000 says:

    wow thats what happened to Rasputin he went forward in time and created a Youtube channel lol xD

  39. i had the "out of this world" game on Amiga… however it was called "another world" if not mistaken?

  40. Love your videos, I have watched almost all of them over the years and I just came across this amazing bearded video!! Holy crap! πŸ˜€

  41. jercon 85 says:

    Watching this in 2020!

  42. Tom3336 says:

    11:48 I was listening to the video and thought he loaded a gun

  43. SteelRodent says:

    No one has ever bought a Mac to play games…

  44. Ve55el says:

    I love these "old Clint" vids. That beard is amazeballs.

  45. The Apple IIGS didn't sell many because it was abandoned by Apple long before they stopped selling it. It could have been a capable machine but it was hobbled by a glacially slow (2.8MHz) processor so it wouldn't cannibalize sales of Macs of the time.The Apple II was the cash cow Apple needed in the 80s to keep the company afloat so they could focus their attention on their darling: the Macintosh. Pricing on Apple II was ridiculously high and nothing was bundled with the machine; everything was a la carte (computer, monitor, floppy drive(s), hard drive, hard drive interface, joystick, software, etc.).In the early 90s, there were promises from Apple for a "ROM 04" IIGS but it was killed before it was put into production as didn't fit into the company's roadmap. At the very end, HyperCard IIGS was released but it was too little, too late and it was difficult to get Stacks created on the Mac to run on the IIGS. Elementary education had been a huge market for Apple II line but most software in schools was 8-bit software so Apple transitioned educational customers to the Mac by including the Apple IIe card that fit into the Macintosh LC expansion PDS.

  46. Jon Rowlison says:

    You mentioned "the first 10,000" with the Woz signature. It was at LEAST the first 50,000 that carried that signature, according to Apple.

  47. Blake Hoyt says:

    Nobody:
    RetroWare TV on LG and Gaming Historian in 2012