LGR Oddware – Diamond Edge 3D (nVidia NV1+Sega Saturn Ports)

September 19, 2014 by 48 Comments

Overview and demonstration of the first 3D accelerator powered by Nvidia. Play PC games converted from the Saturn on Windows 95, using real Saturn controllers and quadratic rendering!

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48 Replies to “LGR Oddware – Diamond Edge 3D (nVidia NV1+Sega Saturn Ports)”

  1. i just got one of these unknown for 50cents didnt know what it was till i got home

  2. nascar racing instead of daytona usa????? YOU F'ED UP, DIAMOND. YOU F'ING F'ED UP.

  3. TexRobNC says:

    This video best encapsulates how we all felt when 3D acceleration hit the market. It's hard to explain to people today. Better resolution, better frames, and better textures was mind blowing at the time. It didn't seem logical, based on what we were used to. I think my Monster 3D was $99, pass through card, and that was a transformative experience.

  4. synthesis says:

    Arent the first generation pads the ones that are heavier and more curved

  5. T says:

    The interesting thing about using quads instead of triangles is that triangles are always flat because you need three points to define a plane. Quads aren't necessarily flat – you can have four points which are not in the same plane. Maybe the NV1 only supported flat quads where all the points are in the same plane? Supporting the general case quickly in hardware seems nightmarish. And even if you did, what's the point? OpenGL supports indexed vertex buffers so if you need to texture a quad you can do it as two triangles reusing the same vertexes via an indexed vertex buffer. And texturing triangles quickly in hardware is a well-understood problem.

  6. As a SimCity 3000 fan, I definitely got the reference at the beginning with the Power Grid music from the game.

    I have never seen such combo like this, video card with audio card, amazing! Unfortunately it didn't support OpenGL.

  7. Theta 32x says:

    Ok humor a simple man. You install the hardware and your PC becomes a sega saturn as well?

  8. BoneYard says:

    Would love to see Sega Rally on this!

  9. Ed S. says:

    Love the channel, sir; it brings back memories.

  10. lzy says:

    HDMI port for win95

  11. Trigga_ P says:

    did you use real sega saturn games?

  12. Trigga_ P says:

    what would Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 look like on that there Video Card?????

  13. I don't get how quads can use less processing power than tris, because I've used Blender a lot (but am not very good at it) and a square quad face has one more vertex to it than a tri does. Maybe, because of this, it requires less faces to make something with an equal level of detail? I dunno, I guess that's what they mean. Like, maybe a mesh can be made with the same detail as one using 100 tris with only 75 quads or something?

  14. Dusk Raccoon says:

    I think the only novelty of this particular 3D accelerator package was being able to play Saturn games on your computer. Probably a desperate attempt by Sega to push the Saturn onto consumers after the failed launch of the console.

  15. BBfanfun says:

    never made it to NV2.
    too bad , Saturn Games played directly on PC would have boosted SEGA profits !
    Was there a DreamCast card for PC ?

  16. Iโ€™m not sure of the Sega Genesis had the same connectors on their controllers as the Sega Saturn…..wonder if you could have used the Genesis controllers with this product.

  17. i had one of these, with the expansion ram installed, it actually made a decent card to combined with a 3dfx and powervr pcx2 cards.

  18. That was a great technical look at 3d acceleration. I just watched the 3DO Card video, and this was a nice companion piece.

  19. Walt Berger says:

    Maybe i missed it, but can you play standard saturn games ? or do they have to be a special version ?

  20. Draeas says:

    What was special about the Creative CR-563? Why did it have to be that one/type in particular? Any idea?

  21. mocaxu says:

    i liked the Edge 3D's 2D performance. The gradients are really smooth, no banding, comparable to good 2d accelerators.

  22. Zantrop64 says:

    I'm into driving sim, and that NASCAR game seems fun anyone knows if there is a way to play it with a g25?

  23. TCMOREIRA says:

    I wonder if that means that, somewhere, if there's code for making those Saturn games run on old PCs then maybe there's a chance of them being ported over to today's machines?

  24. phatputer says:

    Popped up in my feed, immediately went woah what happened to Clint, oh 5 year old video, great video but certainly have improved the quality over the years

  25. rekleif says:

    Are Sega Saturn the same as what we called Mega Drive in the free world? Looks very close to my mega drive…

  26. Fco M says:

    in this episode he looks a lot like JonTron .

  27. DJ SHaKa says:

    Oh man gotta love the early days of computing – what sold me on this card was the rendered ball on the back showing how smooth things were going to be after installation lol, i also had fun installing it in my $2000 NEC Pentium 90 with 8 megs of ram – in a weird way i miss that computer, one of my first experiences playing a music CD, MP3 file, playing Star Trek the Final Unity, getting online using a friends University dial up account, talking to someone far away for the first time using mIRC, letting family members come over to type papers for school, that computer just transported me to a different world for the first time ๐Ÿ™‚ Thanks for the vid.

  28. Joshua Law says:

    what about a difference between this card and an actual sega saturn?

  29. The controllers that came with it are JP controllers and controllers and other basic control peripherals are region free

  30. SillyStev0n says:

    โ€œ5 years agoโ€ Iโ€™m definitely late.

  31. Guhto1987 says:

    play more games plz ๐Ÿ˜€ see bigs chenges ๐Ÿ˜›

  32. The O.I.C. says:

    Would've been fantastic to have seen a NiGHTS port, here…though that may have cannibalized some sales from the Saturn side, I guess.
    They certainly do run and look much better than their Saturn counterparts.

  33. Toonrick12 says:

    Seeing how the Sega Saturn was much better at 2D than 3D, no wonder no one jumped on board.

  34. will it play every saturn game?

  35. Tomais says:

    A card with video, 3D acceleration and sound? That would never catch on!

  36. 0:15 sim city soundtrack briefly plays

  37. Anyone know where to find ISO,s of the games? A friend of mine has the card but we haven't found any of the games for it.

  38. Jeff B. says:

    anyone else kinda disappointed that this didn't allow you to put any Sega Saturn game disc in your CD-ROM drive and play it on the PC?

  39. I wonder if it's possible to hack this thing and use it as a dev kit for creating saturn games

  40. Be Thimple says:

    If you didnโ€™t have a 3dfx card in โ€˜90 and you grow up and can buy a last model of GeForce or Radeon card – you are still didnโ€™t have a 3dfx voodoo video card when you was need it in your youth!!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜•๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ˜Ÿ๐Ÿ˜ข๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

  41. So there a tag under the title which claims "no mature content"yet you make drug references.

  42. Kaneco says:

    Would love to hear how this card sounds like when running it with the Sonic & Knuckles PC collection on the FM Synthesizer setting.

  43. El PERICKS says:

    Im a 90s kid..i had most his stuff. Brings me back maaaaan..kudos mate!

  44. Is there a way to save the iso from that Nascar Racing disc and for it to be made playable on native Saturn hardware?

  45. imagine if AMD came out with a video card using the same technology as the nintendo switch.

  46. the gm bank of this sounds like a knockoff roland sc55.